If you say 'illin,' then it's the opposite." If you say 'ill,' then it means cool and good, hot. 'You have to understand the context of how it's used. "No one would ever guess that the synonym for wack would be illin,' she said. She said the intricacies of what is meant by "ill" and its derivatives are "kind of hard to articulate if you're not in the culture." That's the view of Marvet Britto, a PR person who works in the hip-hop community, who spoke to The New York Post about this most gentle of rap beefs. Consider the need felt by Run-D.M.C., who clarified within a song that when they said "bad" they meant, "not bad meaning bad, but bad meaning good."Īnd it's also possible that two connotations of "ill" have evolved in the past 20-30 years - one with a positive spin, and another with negative undertones. It's possible that Shortz and Smolinski are merely arguing about a word whose meaning has shifted over the years - after all, one of the points of slang is that it excludes outsiders from knowing its meaning.Īnd the double-meanings that negative words often accrue in slang can even prompt confusion for rappers, themselves. Some observers who followed the debate online detracted several points from Shortz when they realized he was arguing about cultural currency. "Although, to be fair, I would have to list my source as 'the rapper T.I.' (although I'm fairly certain he is MLA approved)." "In my house we always use 'illin" to describe the act of being 'ill' in a positive sense," she wrote. Then Smolinski, 28, cited how she hears the word used in her own experience. In response, Smolinski pointed out that Chapman's book was out of date, and that the lexicographer himself had died (in 2002, at age 81).Īnd an online search shows that Thorne's book was published in 1991 its most recent edition dates from 2007. Chapman) and the Dictionary of Contemporary Slang (by Tony Thorne). To bolster his argument, Shortz cited the Dictionary of American Slang (edited by Robert L. The Times' Wordplay blog also wrote about the dispute late Tuesday. And their exchange sparked a post, and further debates, on Gawker and other sites. Shortz, who also contributes a Sunday Puzzle feature to NPR, wrote a reply to Smolinski, saying that the two words can both be equated to mean "worthless, stupid."īut not everyone agrees. That drew an email from freelance writer Julieanne Smolinski, who identified herself as "Not Even a Hip-Hop Expert" - but who also stated flatly, "These are not the same things, at all!" The clue asked for a 5-letter word that means "Wack, in hip-hop."
Under editor Will Shortz, The New York Times crossword puzzle has won fans for being in touch with the modern world - relying less on arcane words and more on a working knowledge of America's cultural landscape.īut according to some, Shortz took a false step with this past Saturday's puzzle, when he included a clue steeped in hip-hop slang. A New York Times crossword puzzle clue asking for a 5-letter word that means "Wack, in hip-hop" led to an email and an argument over the real meaning of "illin'."
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